Chord/Arp Subs


bayoubilt
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11/22/2014 1:25 am
I've been playing with these going by the sound. I saw this somewhere before but I can't remember where.

These can be substituted for each other;

FMaj7#11 = Dm7 = G7 = Bm7b5 = Db7alt as arpeggios or chords. Pretty cool

Quartal harmony works with this too. C major for all the chords above
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ChristopherSchlegel
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11/22/2014 3:25 pm
Thanks for the post! There are indeed a wide assortment of substitutions that can be made, especially in jazz.

There are two factors involved in the concept of chord substitution:

1. Similar notes.
2. Similar function.

Often if two chords have several similar notes they can be sub'd for each other. For example, FMaj7#11 and G7.

FMaj7#11 = F-A-B-E
G7= G-B-D-F

So, they share 2 notes in common. Also, the A note is found in a G9 & that makes it closer.

However, an F maj7 in the key of C functions as a sub-dominant (IV). Whereas a G7 functions as a dominant (V). So, some of this comes down to the personal taste of the player & how much wiggle room you are willing to allow in your substituting! :)

Consider G7 and Bm7b5.

G7= G-B-D-F
Bm7b5 = B-D-F-A

So, these share 3 notes in common. Again, the A note is found in a G9 & that makes it closer.

Moreover, a Bm7b5 in the key of C functions as a dominant (vii). And of course the G7 also functions as dominant (V)!

The G7 and Db7 are quite close too & are very much a cornerstone of chord substitution in jazz, blues & even later classical. It's known as the tritone substitution when the (V) & (bII) both are dominant chords functioning as a (V). I cover it in depth in this lesson.

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=13881
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http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=16065


Thanks for the interesting discussion!
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11/22/2014 10:46 pm
I was going strictly by the sound. None of the chords are sustained but are moving from chord to chord by mere beats. I dropped all the theory and just recorded then listened. Take the quartal harmony in C as a sub for the Db7alt. After I heard the the Gb resolution my comment was "Whoa" ...very cool.
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11/23/2014 8:28 pm
My point is I didn't let the theory of substitution get in the way. The FMaj7#11 chord forms SOUND cool as subs for the other 4 chord types. More experimenting is in order!


P.S. I need to say that each of the 5 chord types listed have a function in a given chord progression and by using the subs I have many more sounds to choose from
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