Hair Metal

Yeah ... what exacly is it...

I know a couple of bands that are considered Hair Metal like Twisted Sister, Poison, Guns n' Roses, ect.

But what do those bands have in common??? :confused:

They are men that look female

Originally Posted by: Dr_simonThey are men that look female

yet, still got more females than most of us can dream of

I too have trouble reconciling that !!!

Originally Posted by: alucard0941Yeah ... what exacly is it...

I know a couple of bands that are considered Hair Metal like Twisted Sister, Poison, Guns n' Roses, ect.
But what do those bands have in common??? :confused:

Well first off Guns n roses are not hair metal, they are heavy metal.
Since it's called hair metal, you've probably already found
out one thing they all have in common.

Hair metal is basically glam rock and heavy metal mixed together,
with heavy makeup, long curly hair, over-the-top clothing, heavily distorted
guitars and melodic screaming vocals.
The clothing was sort of New York Dolls, but the music was still heavy metal,
and so the mainstream crowd discovered the hair bands, many through MTV
which sadly has taken a turn for the worse (Usher, Sisqo, 50 cent etc).
The songs were mainly about the rock & roll excess, their fabulous lives,
sort of like modern hip-hop/pop-songs.


Ratt 1, 2, 3 or 4?

Most of them re-records the same old 80's metal, and claim they're back and
better than ever, which everybody including themselves of course know
they're not. But they still sell out shows and sell records because despite
the fact that the 80's are long gone, there will always be some people who
refuses to accept that. I am one of them I guess.

I hope I've answered your question!

/Marcus the Hair-junkie

Originally Posted by: Dr_simonI too have trouble reconciling that !!!

It's easy, chics dig other chics! So a guy that looks like a chic is a dream come true.

Originally Posted by: mc9mmWell first off Guns n roses are not hair metal, they are heavy metal.
Since it's called hair metal, you've probably already found
out one thing they all have in common.

Hair metal is basically glam rock and heavy metal mixed together,
with heavy makeup, long curly hair, over-the-top clothing, heavily distorted
guitars and melodic screaming vocals.
The clothing was sort of New York Dolls, but the music was still heavy metal,
and so the mainstream crowd discovered the hair bands, many through MTV
which sadly has taken a turn for the worse (Usher, Sisqo, 50 cent etc).
The songs were mainly about the rock & roll excess, their fabulous lives,
sort of like modern hip-hop/pop-songs.


Ratt 1, 2, 3 or 4?

Most of them re-records the same old 80's metal, and claim they're back and
better than ever, which everybody including themselves of course know
they're not. But they still sell out shows and sell records because despite
the fact that the 80's are long gone, there will always be some people who
refuses to accept that. I am one of them I guess.

I hope I've answered your question!

/Marcus the Hair-junkie

Dude...you say GNR is heavy metal? Man...do you know what heavy metal is?!? When you say that hair metal is all about the hair, take a look at Dave Mustaine...Now thats a set of hair he has, all curled up. Was he hair metal? OH HELL NO! He's raw heavy metal. Not GNR...with Axl Rose...dumb guy... I wouldn't consider hair metal as a look but as a sound. You don't classify music by the looks...I mean, you listen to music, you don'y look at music. You can't just look at them as say, "hey, thats hair metal." Man, if you said that to Mustaine, he'd kick your ass...ok I'm done getting mad...feel free to flame. :p

geez :o

yeah - i got to disagree with mc9mm aswell.
most of the bands you listed are more like hard rock than heavy metal.

what i (and most heavy fans) consider heavy metal is for sure not GnR or Mothley Crue. Its more like Blind Guardian, Helloween, Manowar, Iron Maiden, Savatage, Virgin Steele and the likes. THATS heavy metal. and it has never died. all those bands have a long history starting somewhere between 1975 and 1990 and constantly threw new albums on the market. just because they never had a real big media performance doesnt mean metal has died. its just that hardrock has vanished from the tv-stations and now we have a thing called nu-metal which is even worse.

Originally Posted by: Dante7978Dude...you say GNR is heavy metal? Man...do you know what heavy metal is?!? When you say that hair metal is all about the hair, take a look at Dave Mustaine...Now thats a set of hair he has, all curled up. Was he hair metal? OH HELL NO! He's raw heavy metal. Not GNR...with Axl Rose...dumb guy... I wouldn't consider hair metal as a look but as a sound. You don't classify music by the looks...I mean, you listen to music, you don'y look at music. You can't just look at them as say, "hey, thats hair metal." Man, if you said that to Mustaine, he'd kick your ass...ok I'm done getting mad...feel free to flame. :p

geez :o[/QUOTE]

Yes I know what metal is, and I know that GNR fits into that category.
And no, I did'nt say hair metal is all about the hair, please read my post next time.


[QUOTE=Azrael]yeah - i got to disagree with mc9mm aswell.
most of the bands you listed are more like hard rock than heavy metal.

what i (and most heavy fans) consider heavy metal is for sure not GnR or Mothley Crue. Its more like Blind Guardian, Helloween, Manowar, Iron Maiden, Savatage, Virgin Steele and the likes. THATS heavy metal. and it has never died. all those bands have a long history starting somewhere between 1975 and 1990 and constantly threw new albums on the market. just because they never had a real big media performance doesnt mean metal has died. its just that hardrock has vanished from the tv-stations and now we have a thing called nu-metal which is even worse.

Well what most people think is'nt necessarily right.
If you look at the actual term heavy metal you'll find that Motley Crue is one
of the most heavy metal bands ever, they fitted into the category like a glove.

I never said metal is dead..??
I said hair metal and heavy metal is dead, and they are.
Heavy metal and hair metal were (are) styles of music rarely played today.
Metal is not dead, it's sleeping. It's not dead, like many people claim, it's
just resting until the right time for it to awake. Now is not the time.
Now is the time for nu- rap- bla- and blabla-metal, which I consider not to
be real metal, but then again, I'm very conservative.

Does'nt anyone read my posts??

Yes, many of the bands started in the 70's, and are still going strong, but in the
70's they were not heavy metal because then no such term existed,k and now,
well, they're just pale copies of themselves. And I do mean everybody.
Mention one heavy metal band still "keepin' it real" today.
Just one, and I shall be impressed.

Over and out of here.
Yours truly, Slim-Bob.

Without getting into the argument, if you want hair metal, check out Nitro :P

Michael Angelo has the worst hair possible. Oh yeah, and what is Jim Gillette's vocal range? 16 Octave?

:D

I change my mind. Hair metal is the ebst music ever made man. Who cares about lsitening to them!??!?!? I love to look at their wonderful head of hair. :looks around......takes out a Poison album: Oh yeah...:does naughty things:

Whats your point?
Are you mad about something or whats your problem?

Never fear... Hairbndrckr is here to sort this mess out for ya...

First of G-n-R were the kings of SLEAZE metal, not hair metal
Sleaze metal came about basically because G-n-R didn't fit into the hair scheme. Other bands in the Sleaze metal genre were:
LA Guns
Faster Pussycat
Shotgun Messiah
(you get the picture)

Hair Metal was just that. It was an Aquanet revolution. The higher the hair and more makeup you wore, the better the chance you had of getting laid. Also if you were in a band and you ever wanted a chance in hell of getting signed, the power ballad was a MUST HAVE in the arsenal... You can all thank Motley Crue for that one... I know, there was more than one time I felt like choking the $hit out of those boys for doing that $hit, but it did get you laid...

For those of you who were talking about Megadeth, and Metallica$h, back in the days they were know as THRASH metal bands and were thrown into the mix with the likes of:
Overkill
Anthrax
Merciful Fate
King Diamond
etc.

Also there was also the hard rock brand being thrown around. Bands that were considered hard rock at the time were:
Van Halen
David Lee Roth
Sammy Hagar (pre halen days)
Tesla

There was one more, but people tend to not admit it. There truthfully was only one band in it. That was the whiny puss-metal genre, and that band was:

Slaughter

Ok class... any questions? No? Good...
Class dis-MISSED.

don't forget Stryper.


jesus metal


(though i guess you could throw it in with whiny-puss metal)

or Motorhead.... I have no Idea how to classify them !!!

other than perhaps "unwashed and scary metal" !

The term hairband refers to the bands of the era that used 3700 liters of hairspray on thier hair to make it poof up big like Cinderella, Dokken, Poison and Bon Jovi, Poor Skid Row never had the hairspray happening. Hairbands don't so much refer to the style of music they played as much as the style in which they presented them selves. For the majority thier musical style fell into what was considered glamrock at the time, now heavy metal seems to encompass alot of musical styles that are in catagories to small to keep thier names single. Like glam which was Poison and Dokken..etc and Blues Metal that was Tora-Tora and Great White..etc Then there was metal and thrash and hard rock what for the most part is just bundled into heavy metal now.

...wow...









...i feel dumb... :(

Originally Posted by: alucard0941...wow...









...i feel dumb... :(

Don't feel dumb... feel enlightend.... yeah that's it...

Looks like another episode of Sub-Genre Definition Quagmire, all I know from looking back on the ancient history of my life, the term heavy metal has been around since we had Steppinwolf jammin on the turntable in the late 60's, and the term has been thrown around very loosely since probaly the early 70's, and just about every band mentioned in this thread has had the term thrown at them at one time or another by some some so called journalist, writing for some so called music rag, I've seen it applied to Led Zep, Aerosmith, ( who actually won a grammy for something in the heavy metal category ), GNR, Van Halen, etc,etc, and then in the mid 80's when the sub-categegories, started coming out, thrash metal, etc.. my favorite was the so called New Wave of British Heavy Metal bands, like Def Leopard, which I think every one will agree, is at the lighter end of the periodic table, I think what we need to do is start a Rock Sub-Genre Certification Board, and finally get all these categories in their proper pigeon holes, and the first person I intend to straighten out is my mother, to her anything with distortion is Acid Rock, come on Mom, your 65 years old, you should know Super Joint Ritual, is not Acid Rock!, Well I don't care what anyone thinks, I know for a fact that Chuck Berry is Rock N Roll and not R&B..............BTW, anyone remember "LA Metal"?........

I remember "LA Metal"... That whole thing was started by Quiet Riot... yeah... They were the whole reason the record companies went into a feeding frenzy on any band with long hair and a half assed decent way of being able to play an instrument....