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Axl_Rose
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02/08/2003 5:53 pm
Just wondering your opinions on the affect the internet has had on todays players.
Slash says he'd spend ages figuring out songs but todays players dont have to. The amount of tab discourages this i think but the tuition online is really good. Were there tab books in the 70 or 80s? when did they appear?

Internet Good or Bad?
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Josh Redstone
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02/08/2003 6:49 pm
The internet is a mixed blessing. Its convinient, and allows lessons and discussions on sites like this, but then again, its all tab, which isn't really a proper way of reading music.
Just my thoughts. I could be wrong.
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02/08/2003 8:14 pm
Totally agree with josh, a mixed blessing. I think the Internet has spawned a lot of new players and in turn has made the general knowledge of guitar better. But then there is the whole tab aspect, and again, tab is a mixed blessing.
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02/08/2003 9:33 pm
don't forget file sharing. while i enjoy all the benefits that napster started, i do agree with the artists and their position.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

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02/08/2003 9:35 pm
Yeah, if it weren't for Napster or Kazaa or whatever record sales would still be really high. How often do you hear about a group selling 16 million records now? Not very.

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02/08/2003 9:41 pm
f- guitar tab! the internet is the best place for news that get's embargo-ed, "forgotten" or deemed unpatroitic to report... and google is the daddy, I can fact check anything from, the latest incident with the celebrity actors like colin powel, to "flip-flop" the ever complicated bilipid protiein transporting/ positioning mechanism...
I've heard of a huge amount of new music thanks to the net, read interveiws for free (and paid half-wit jernos what they deserve)... It's great to just chat to my freinds... It's definetly a thing with many pluse points...
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02/09/2003 2:34 pm
I think it is totally brilliant ! When I started playing guitar there was so much "Mystery" surrounding everything. The only source of info was either your mates who often didn’t know either or the guy in the local guitar shop (who often didn’t know either). Occasionally you could find a book on the subject but that was often longwinded, boring and went round the houses. If I want to know something I can look it up on line and 9 times out of 10 Ill find it !

Example... Well Earlier this month I wanted to hook up my Tascam 424 Mk III analogue 4 track to my Digital Korg D1600. This would be easy except the Tascam doesn’t support much in the way of Midi features (like no midi ports).

So I got on line and with in 5 min had found a users forum dedicated the Kork D1600. I searched for 424 MkII and sure as little apples, their was the answer ! I phoned up the local music store and asked them if they had the midi synch box I needed....and they had never heard of it, let a lone knew anything about the synchronization process. Anyway I got online again and ordered said box from zzsounds and with in 7 days it was in my hot little paws.

I hooked the thing up and ....nothing happened ! I went back to the Korg forum and re-red the post (remembering this is the first time I have ever used Midi) found the answer to my problem and now the whole thing works like a dream !

My point ! Well the internet made this possible as I got detailed instructions as well kit from people who knew what they were doing and had used both bits of kit before. If I had relied of customer support from Korg or Tascam, well Id still be waiting. The music store was useless so hats of to the internet.

It is also a great way of getting kit that is a bit unusual (like a patch-bay). Living in Iowa, this can be a problem!

As far as the tab thing goes, I used to spend hours working out songs and that was time consuming. It did provide a lot of practice time however I just play different things these days so it is not that I practice less !

The net is also great for finding out about songs. File sharing doesn’t stop me from buying an album (which I do if I like it) however it dose let me hear an album before I buy and decide weather it sucks or not. Also if I want to listen to just one track off an album I haven’t heard for years (or I have maybe left the CD in the UK), I can pull it of the net and bingo, I no longer have to buy the album a second time...cool !

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02/09/2003 6:55 pm
Originally posted by Dr_simon

The net is also great for finding out about songs. File sharing doesn’t stop me from buying an album (which I do if I like it) however it dose let me hear an album before I buy and decide weather it sucks or not. Also if I want to listen to just one track off an album I haven’t heard for years (or I have maybe left the CD in the UK), I can pull it of the net and bingo, I no longer have to buy the album a second time...cool !



i agree, i still like buying the album and i still do (when i have the money) whichi is why i've never felt guilty about doing it. but i know a lot of people whoi download entire albums, movies and everything else.

the internet is great i have learned so much, and i owe so much to this site. but i still think we should let be as a mixed blessing
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.

--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
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02/10/2003 10:18 pm
Internet is good, this is just a glimpse of the future, and everything will be fine!
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02/11/2003 12:08 am
Good: (1) Playing has never been easier to learn. There's hundreds of sites devoted to teaching guitar. (2) Books can't answer questions like knowledgable people can. I mean, look at this forum!! If you have a guitar related question, you're not limited to the people around you. You can throw out the question and have people from all over the world put in their opinions. (3) I would have never even heard of half the musicians whose cds I now own if not for the internet. I rarely buy cds unless I know they'll be good (used to be by word of mouth), but now I can listen to clips of songs, and I have bought many albums from what I've heard on the net even though no one around owned the album. (4) The internet offers a way for people to get together who may have never even met otherwise. I'm now friends with many guitarists in neighboring towns that I met through the net. I could go on, but for demonstrative purposes, I'll move on to the negatives.

Bad: (1) New musicians now lack the ear training that comes from sitting down and learning a song by ear. They can read tab decently, but it's harder for them to improvise or catch on to a song that's not tabbed out (such as in a live situation).

Conclusion: The internet is a GREAT advancement for disciplined musicians. The pros totally outweigh the cons.
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02/11/2003 9:00 am
The net has it's goods and bads,but overall the goods by far outweigh the bads.And besides,the goodness or badness of anything is determined by what use you put it to.
Some people put up info about stuff like epilepsy,which helps people like me(my brother has developed epilepsy-I used to think it was genetic or something,you can't like,catch it the way you do normal diseases-and info from the net has helped me know wussup).
Others put up porn that can corrupt a kid's ideas about sex(btw,nudity,like in nude paintings and stuff,is very different from porn).
It was thro' the net that I found out people keep hedgehogs as pets(!!).
On this forum,actually.
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