a little help with guitars


I_am_the_smartest
Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 39
I_am_the_smartest
Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 39
07/16/2002 3:22 am
I need to know what kind of guitar companies are really good. I don't really know anything about whatever pick ups are or humbuckers (what do they do?), and i really need to get a new guitar. can you guys tell me what things are good to have on a guitar? And maybe even suggest a good guitar. I play lots of metallica and love metal but i can only get a guitar around up to $500. thanks!
# 1
meng
New Member
Joined: 07/09/02
Posts: 7
meng
New Member
Joined: 07/09/02
Posts: 7
07/16/2002 4:30 am
Well "I am the smartest", I would check an Ibanez or a Jackson cause the usually are a little less expensive and good for that metal sound. A humbucker is going to give you a more thick and deep sound and a single will be a little twangy. think of a country sound vs. a metal sound
# 2
James8831
Senior Member
Joined: 10/29/01
Posts: 510
James8831
Senior Member
Joined: 10/29/01
Posts: 510
07/16/2002 7:46 am
Ok,Prof.


Early Fender and Gibson guitars had single coil pickups,but,these would anoy people by producing hum -noticable while not playing.Fenders usually have single coils anyway and some still hum away merrily.

A humbucker is, very basically, 2 single coil pickups one of which is wired opposite to the other to "buck the hum" - thats why humbucker/humcancelling.

In addition to meng,i'd add- look at ESP (they do copies of Metallicas guitars,i do believe)Maverick and Yamaha
as they all make some suitably heavy guitars,but,BC Rich is the Daddy of the metally look.

Check out Musicians Friend (etc) for faded Gibsons at around $500. The SG is a classic metal guitar.

*..Stops himself*
Accuracy,you say? hmm interesting concept..
# 3
dot-dot-dot
Member
Joined: 06/14/02
Posts: 54
dot-dot-dot
Member
Joined: 06/14/02
Posts: 54
07/16/2002 11:49 am
For $500, I'd look at an Ibanez RG5xx (don't go lower in the range, you should find something for $500), or Yamaha. I don't know enough about the Jacksons to say either way, but both Ibanez and Yamaha make excellent instruments at that price point.
Squeeze the day!

The Monkey FX Page - effect guides and handbuilt pedals.
# 4
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
07/16/2002 3:00 pm
everyone here will tell you its not what it says on the headstock, its what it says to your hands.

I would get an SG or a warlock, though.
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis.
# 5
James8831
Senior Member
Joined: 10/29/01
Posts: 510
James8831
Senior Member
Joined: 10/29/01
Posts: 510
07/16/2002 8:10 pm
"Only in his home town
and in his own house is a prophet without honour."



Accuracy,you say? hmm interesting concept..
# 6
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
07/16/2002 9:05 pm
what does that mean?
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis.
# 7
mc9mm
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 08/16/01
Posts: 532
mc9mm
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 08/16/01
Posts: 532
07/16/2002 9:08 pm
I would'nt recommend an Ibanez at all.
Really good?
Well sad but true, bigger is often better.
No nearly always but for the most part.
Ibanez is one exception.
Gibson Fender are good brands.
People say that people who thinks gibson/fender
are good only care about the brand.
That is so not true.
Maybe they're too expensive, maybe they are too famous.
Regardless, they make good guitars.

If you want a really good guitar,
buy a Gibson from the korina series.
The price is high, but so is the quality.
# 8
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
07/17/2002 2:56 am
ya that is like so not true, what- eveeeeer
(ha ha. sorry- that just sounded like something a valley- girl would say.

i dont really like ibanez but for metal and stuff theyr okay. B.C. Rich makes the coolest metal guitars.
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis.
# 9
mc9mm
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 08/16/01
Posts: 532
mc9mm
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 08/16/01
Posts: 532
07/17/2002 6:42 am
No one calls me a valley-girl and gets away with it...

# 10
nasum_human
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/02
Posts: 111
nasum_human
Registered User
Joined: 07/15/02
Posts: 111
07/17/2002 8:15 pm
All I can offer guitar wise, is to go to as many guitar stores as possible and try them out!

one place I can recommend is http://www.musicyo.com, my brother bought a quad rail kramer explorer from there, he got it very cheap, but it's a sweet guitar (it DID need some slight setup alterations and a small bit of fret stoning) but for the price he paid, a couple of hours work on it was well worth the cash he saved!

I've played on most guitar brands, they all have good and bad models and guitars suitable for different types of music, but think of the general guidelines

PRS - expensive (VERY!) but classy, very rich sound, slightly more 'trim' than a les paul

Les paul - Huge variety of sounds, nice short scale length (makes string bending more easy)

Telecaster and Stratocaster - incisive and cutting sound, often have lots of pickup 'hum' if not wired the best

and 'super strats' strat style guitars with humbucking pickups tend to have similar tonal ranges to a les paul, but with more hollowness in the middle.

BC rich, Ibanez, Kramer, ESP, Schecter all make very good guitars which would be suitable for metal playing, it's a case of try before you buy! hope this helps
guns dont kill people, people kill people, and monkeys do too (if they've got a gun)
# 11
Dr_simon
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 07/06/02
Posts: 5,021
Dr_simon
Guitar Tricks Instructor
Joined: 07/06/02
Posts: 5,021
07/22/2002 11:24 pm
I used a Washburn Chicago series for metal and it was OK ($500.00 New). It was no where near as nice as my Strat ($500.00 second hand) but did have a FR tremolo system. The Strat I have has 9s on it at the moment and is just incredibly fast. I tried 9s on the Washburn and the trem system really did not like it however this may be a peculiarity of this particular guitar. In terms of action the Strat kicks the ass of my PRS and laughs out loud of the Washburn (even with the trem adjusted flat against the body). If you are a whammy fiend the standard strat trem is very very lame however if trem dives just annoy you the strat is your man.
Personally I love single coils as I find they have more bite than humbuckers even with the really modern hi gain amps (as described by Line 6 !). I have never had a problem with single coils making too much noise however I avoid fluorescent lighting, ground loops, computer monitors and all that good stuff.
Hope this helps
S
My instructors page and www.studiotrax.net for all things recording.
my toons Brought to you by Dr BadGAS
# 12
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
07/25/2002 3:18 pm
go to your guitar store and see what guitar you like best.
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis.
# 13
Incidents Happen
Registered User
Joined: 12/23/01
Posts: 1,625
Incidents Happen
Registered User
Joined: 12/23/01
Posts: 1,625
07/28/2002 3:34 am
you play guitar, shouldn't you know, "I am the smartest" ?
# 14
limpandorbizkit
New Member
Joined: 06/15/02
Posts: 3
limpandorbizkit
New Member
Joined: 06/15/02
Posts: 3
07/28/2002 11:56 am
its probably best to go for a top of the range of something like ibanez than a bottom of the range, say gibson. I recently had the choice of a gibson or an ibanez and went for the ibanez. jem 555 steve vai signature. SWEET AS A MOOSE.
# 15
yukonc5
Member
Joined: 04/20/02
Posts: 82
yukonc5
Member
Joined: 04/20/02
Posts: 82
07/28/2002 9:34 pm
I have never tried to play a moose!:D
Grog go now! Make noise!
# 16
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
taylormarkow
Senior Member
Joined: 07/01/02
Posts: 126
07/29/2002 3:10 am
ha ha ha
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis.
# 17
Lordathestrings
Gear Guru
Joined: 01/18/01
Posts: 6,242
Lordathestrings
Gear Guru
Joined: 01/18/01
Posts: 6,242
07/29/2002 7:19 am
Originally posted by yukonc5
I have never tried to play a moose!:D
They're so stringy don'cha know...

Up here in Canada, we refer to home-grown bands as moose music. In fact, a while ago, I saw a compilation CD of Canadian heavy rock bands called 'Moose Metal". The drawing on the cover looked like a chrome-plated Bullwinkle! :D
Lordathestrings
Guitar Tricks Moderator

www.GuitarTricks.com - Home of Online Guitar Lessons
# 18
David Gilmour
Member
Joined: 10/30/01
Posts: 45
David Gilmour
Member
Joined: 10/30/01
Posts: 45
07/29/2002 1:41 pm
Hey, I didn't know we did that...
see you on the dark side of the moon
# 19


Joined: 05/03/24
Posts: 0


Joined: 05/03/24
Posts: 0
07/31/2002 7:45 am
I going to buy a new guitar too. Im thinkig of a Ibanez RG550 EX og PGM 30. I have a Fender Squier. Ibanez has almost the same size necks as the Squier. I just tried a ESP M-100 at a guitar shop. It looked verry cool. with a FR, 24 frets all of that. But when i tried it it just didn't work for me. The neck was TOO tick. It was so weard for me to play it.. and the pickups didn't give the right metal sound im looking for.

So try before u buy!

I have question.

If i bought the RG550 EX and replaced the pickups with Seymore Duncan with that cost just as mutch as a Steve Vai signatur or isn't pickups that expensive???!!??


# 20

Please register with a free account to post on the forum.