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Is there a better amp than the Fender Deluxe Reverb, for a price of around $800? i will have that much in about 16 days, and right now thats prolly the one im lookin at. havent played it yet, and i will, but is there any other ones you guys think would be good?

im not a heavy metal guy (as you can tell), just clean, solid fat tone stuff, with some wah too.

You might want to try a Carvin MTS 3212 212 combo. You can get a new one for $700. It has alot more power than the Deluxe, and it also has a few modern features like, a foot switch for channel and reverb switching, fx loop, line out, bias switch tube selection(choose 5881,EL34, or 6L6GCs) and wattage selection 50/100 watts. It also has two channels, clean and dirty. The clean channel is supurb. I own the head version of this amp and it's a great tube amp. The only down side to Carvin's is, unless your close to one of their outlet stores or know somebody that owns one, you're buying them without trying it on first. All the stores are in CA. Here's some info anyway. http://www.carvin.com or 1-800-854-2235
Good luck!

Incidents, are you looking at the Reissue or an authentic Deluxe Reverb? If it's an old Silverface or Blackface, I say buy it if it's in good shape, they are a great amp and the price on old Fenders ain't going nowhere but up, if nothing else keep and play a really great little amp for a few years and sell it for some profit. If you want to save about $250, and can try one out somewhere, the Reverend Hellhound might be worth a look. Hey if you do get an old Deluxe Reverb, post on the Tech forum and let me know, their are alot of cool things you can do with old 2 channel Fenders that you might have fun with..... Happy Hunting

how about a brand new Fender Deluxe Reverb???

That would be the Reissue, which for me would not be my first choice if I could find a decent "Old" DR in good shape.

aaaaah, well there is a silverface that is for sale in my town, not sure the price...but what is so good about the old ones that isnt in the new ones? i know the circutry is different, but what else?

Well you've kind of hit the nail on the head, the DR Reissue , like the Bassman Reissue, use printed circuit boards,instead of point to point wiring, and the voltages are probaly a little different, most folks think the new amps sound harsh compared to the old ones, and I'm not going to get into the PCB vs PTP discussion, but I say if you want to make a Reissue, then make it like the original, don't screw around with it, but I respect a man who has made $800, flipping burgers for the clown, so I would say my best advice to anyone amp shopping is this, find as many amps as possible in your price range that fit your bill as far as features,wattage, speakers etc, and play them all and buy the one that sounds the best to you, regardless of brand name, vintage, etc, etc, no one knows better than you, trust your ears

Originally posted by pstring
... so I would say my best advice to anyone amp shopping is this, find as many amps as possible in your price range that fit your bill as far as features,wattage, speakers etc, and play them all and buy the one that sounds the best to you, regardless of brand name, vintage, etc, etc, no one knows better than you, trust your ears

Sound advice from pstring!

haha, i do not flip burgers, i do the "may i take your order" ****:( . But eh, you know that $800 will be spent well, i saved every penny since like March, and i want a kickass amp...I have not ruled out getting a good solid-state combo, but since i dont play heavy metal and im more into classic rock/grateful dead stuff, a tube amp would be best for me probably.

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I think Jerry would agree, by the way, do you want fries with that? Good Luck!

Im probably going to have to get a new one (due to warranty problems if i buy it used), and the 3 vintage amps i see in my price range are (of fender)

Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb - $800
Fender '65 Twin Reverb - $1000
Fender '65 Super Reverb - $1100

if my prices are right. Right now i have $607, and when i get my check i'll have $740, and my parents said they can pay for a 'chunk' of it, and to them that means up to about 200 or 300 dollars, if i help them out sometime. So i was just wondering if it would be smartest to get the Deluxe Reverb, and use the 300 extra to get a pedal or two, or go for the Twin Reverb, or what...

They are three very different amps. With the Deluxe Reverb (an amp I am considering buying when I get the cash) you get a nice, fairly low wattage amp, that is designed to be able to be driven into overdrive to get a nice bluesy tube sound. The Twin, on the other hand, is a much bigger amp, with heaps of clean headroom, but it isn't very useful for getting that overdriven sound, and to get a decent distortion you definately need to go through some pedals. The Super Reverb is somewhere between the two, with 45 watts, and with a 4x10 cabinet which gives a different sound again. YOu could get this amp into overdrive, but at louder volume levels than the Deluxe Reverb. It really depends what kind of application you want to use the amp for. THe Deluxe Reverb is suited to being used in smaller areas (like at jams, or in your house) when you want to get a nice overdriven sound, whereas the Super Reverb is more suited to larger areas (biggish clubs) where you don't get miked through to the PA. If you want an amp that you can get a good, clean tone, no matter how big the club (well within reason), go the Twin. Of course, this is just from those three options. There's a whole world outside of Fender.

Deluxe 22watts, 1 12" speaker
Twin 85watts, 2 12" speakers
Super 40watts, 4 10" speakers

These are the 3 Vintage reissues from Fender. Consensus is that the Super comes closest to nailing that old blackface tone. I've tried the reissue Super and I use a reissue Twin regularly. The Super sounded real good, the Twin sounds good but not as good as an old siver or black face. Bardsley nails the essential sonic differences between the three.

Don't dismiss buying an old silverface or blackface Deluxe, Twin or Super. Warranties aside, the old amps are only going to appeciate in value, as opposed to the reissues, whose value drops as soon as you walk out the door with it. You should be able to find a silverface Twin or Deluxe (possibly a Super) in the price range you're looking at. The silverface Deluxe you mentioned would be a better buy (IMHO) than a new reissue.

yup i've heard carvin make great amps. and guitars. but i don't really know what amp has the best clean tone.

For sale in Harmony Central classifieds today:

1) Reissue Twin Reverb "Mint" condition $500-

2) '78 Twin Reverb needs tubes and tuneup $400-

3) '74 Vibrolux Reverb ( 40watts, 2 10" speakers) $850-


Look at the asking price for a relatively new reissue Twin, and the prices on those old silverfaces.

but 'why' cant fender make them like they were in the 60's again?

3 simple reasons, Cost, Cost,and Cost, the old ones were hand wired, labor costs being what they are, a $384US Blues Jr., would cost about $1000US, check out the prices of Fender's Toneking or Vibroking.... thats what a 60's Super Reverb or Concert would cost if you bought it new today, Ouch!

are the re-issues 'not good' though? i mean, i have worries about the USED silverface, just because if i drop it or something and the wiring gets ****ed, then what? you know? whereas if i buy the re-issue i can always get it replaced... i dont know, is the tone THAT much better?

People are big fans of Point-to-point wiring, etc. I reckon that 99.95% of people will neever notice the difference between a vintage amp and a good reissue (which most of the Fenders are, though lots of people choose to change the speaker and tube brands - check the Harmony Central reviews for info on that) in a normal giggind scenario. In fact, even in a recording studio, most people won't notice it that much, but I think when recording you want to use the very best you can find. Anyone disagree?
However, not buying a used amp because of warranty probles, etc. does get in the way of you getting a good amp for a lower price. Most guitar repair places know their amps enough to be able to fix vintage equipment, though if it is really vintage (read, worth heaps), you'd want to look around for someone who seems the most knowledgeable.

i think im just going to stick with the brand new Fender Deluxe Reverb, then if i **** it up, at least I did it and not somebody else.