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jedicaster

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Ok, I have just sold my three guitars in order to buy one really special one.
I've got £1000 to spend.
I thought I wanted a Les paul standard, but after spending some time in a guitar shop yesterday playing a few I wasn't impressed.
They just didn't feel right and certainly not worth the money (in my opinion).
Now I don't know what I want.
I quite like the ESP LTD EC1000 in black and even the Truckster, I even contemplated a Parker Fly.
Anyway I appreciate that guitars are subjective things but do you have any thought on the best guitar for this price range?

:confused:
Jedicaster

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#1

Ok, I have just sold my three guitars in order to buy one really special one.
I've got £1000 to spend.
I thought I wanted a Les paul standard, but after spending some time in a guitar shop yesterday playing a few I wasn't impressed.
They just didn't feel right and certainly not worth the money (in my opinion).
Now I don't know what I want.
I quite like the ESP LTD EC1000 in black and even the Truckster, I even contemplated a Parker Fly.
Anyway I appreciate that guitars are subjective things but do you have any thought on the best guitar for this price range?

:confused:
Jedicaster

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Willdridge

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Are you after a guitar for a particular style, or are you after a "Jack-of-all-trades"?

Regardless of the above, one of the easiest ways of picking a guitar (other than asking someone) is to wander into a shop and play a few...don't necessarily go for the guitars you've always *thought* you've wanted, try some of the ones you've never noticed before - you'll often be very surprised...

On a side note...how did you manage to part with THREE guitars?!
Don't worry too much about me, ignore me long enough and I'll go away.

#2

Are you after a guitar for a particular style, or are you after a "Jack-of-all-trades"?

Regardless of the above, one of the easiest ways of picking a guitar (other than asking someone) is to wander into a shop and play a few...don't necessarily go for the guitars you've always *thought* you've wanted, try some of the ones you've never noticed before - you'll often be very surprised...

On a side note...how did you manage to part with THREE guitars?!
Don't worry too much about me, ignore me long enough and I'll go away.

jedicaster

Mine's 1 louder

Joined: 08/16/05

Posts: 60

On a side note...how did you manage to part with THREE guitars?![/QUOTE]


Tell me about it. I used to have 8 a little while ago.
Anyway when they were collected I started to have doubts. However the band has just folded as they do and I've been drooling over the guitar mags.
It just happened. ;)
Jedicaster

I am vibrating at the speed of light.

#3

On a side note...how did you manage to part with THREE guitars?![/QUOTE]


Tell me about it. I used to have 8 a little while ago.
Anyway when they were collected I started to have doubts. However the band has just folded as they do and I've been drooling over the guitar mags.
It just happened. ;)
Jedicaster

I am vibrating at the speed of light.

Lordathestrings

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Joined: 01/18/01

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If you find Les Pauls disappointing, look into some old Tokai Love Rocks or Yamaha Studio Lord guitars.

>(1978) tobacco 'burst SL800 Studio Lord<


Back in 1984, I went downtown with a fistful of money, intent on buying a new Les Paul Custom. I came home with a Yamaha SBG1000 instead. Like a double-cutaway LP. My set-neck axe is not as pretty as these neck-through-body beauties, but then it was half the price of the Les Paul. And these fit your budget.

>(2004) black pearl SG3000 Custom with factory Seymour Duncan pickups<

>(mid-80's?) cream SBG3000<

>(2002) gold-top SG3000<


Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

These are all on eBay Canada. You can probably find them on eBay UK.


Yeah, I like Yamahas. Build quality is so consistent that I bought an identical twin to my first SBG1000 on eBay, and it was every bit as good as my first one. I also own a RGB350 bass, and a late-60's SA-30 12-string hollow-body.
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#4

If you find Les Pauls disappointing, look into some old Tokai Love Rocks or Yamaha Studio Lord guitars.

>(1978) tobacco 'burst SL800 Studio Lord<


Back in 1984, I went downtown with a fistful of money, intent on buying a new Les Paul Custom. I came home with a Yamaha SBG1000 instead. Like a double-cutaway LP. My set-neck axe is not as pretty as these neck-through-body beauties, but then it was half the price of the Les Paul. And these fit your budget.

>(2004) black pearl SG3000 Custom with factory Seymour Duncan pickups<

>(mid-80's?) cream SBG3000<

>(2002) gold-top SG3000<


Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

These are all on eBay Canada. You can probably find them on eBay UK.


Yeah, I like Yamahas. Build quality is so consistent that I bought an identical twin to my first SBG1000 on eBay, and it was every bit as good as my first one. I also own a RGB350 bass, and a late-60's SA-30 12-string hollow-body.
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Fenderalltheway

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(Quote Lordathestrings)
Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

How can that not be a Fender. Did Fender give them rights or something?Because the similarities isn't funny. In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.
"When you want to rock hard children, lean of F#."

#5

(Quote Lordathestrings)
Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

How can that not be a Fender. Did Fender give them rights or something?Because the similarities isn't funny. In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.
"When you want to rock hard children, lean of F#."

Lordathestrings

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Originally Posted by: Fenderalltheway
.... In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.
Actually, the fit and finish is at least as good as any Am-strat, but it's all Japanese. These are called 'lawsuit' models, for obvious reasons.
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#6

Originally Posted by: Fenderalltheway
.... In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.
Actually, the fit and finish is at least as good as any Am-strat, but it's all Japanese. These are called 'lawsuit' models, for obvious reasons.
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HDJ

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I still swear by my Ernie Ball/Music Man EVH. The Axis model is of course the same guitar with just a few changes (contour on back, toggle switch was moved). I usually describe it as a cross between a Les Paul and a Strat.

The Axis is worth checking out....
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#7

I still swear by my Ernie Ball/Music Man EVH. The Axis model is of course the same guitar with just a few changes (contour on back, toggle switch was moved). I usually describe it as a cross between a Les Paul and a Strat.

The Axis is worth checking out....
Check out my band:
Havoc Din

3fingeredblues

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Originally Posted by: Fenderalltheway
(Quote Lordathestrings)
Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

How can that not be a Fender. Did Fender give them rights or something?Because the similarities isn't funny. In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.



As Lord stated, this guitar was from the lawsuit era of japanese guitars. Ibanez, Tokai, Fernandes, Yamaha, and a couple of others were making replicas of familiar american designs and Fender and Gibson both sued these companies and forced them to make minor alterations to these guitars like headstock shape. Funny thing is, that at the time, these companies were actually making better copies of these designs than the american manufactures of the time. The Les Pauls and Strats of the early 80's weren't very desireable at the time, and not just 'cause pointy guitars were popular at the time. They just weren't that great. Especially the strats of the early to mid 80's. Bad neck pocket fits, heavy woods, crummy p/u's, cheaper hardware, etc...

These japanes copies of this era are actually more desireable to knowledgeable collectors than the "real" thing.

And that is one nice Yamaha...If I had a place to hide it I'd jump on it. I just don't know where I could hide it, and I prefer my bed to the couch! :D

#8

Originally Posted by: Fenderalltheway
(Quote Lordathestrings)
Not to forget Fender's favourite:

>(1972) natural SR500S stratocopy<

How can that not be a Fender. Did Fender give them rights or something?Because the similarities isn't funny. In a few words....thats a Fender Strat.



As Lord stated, this guitar was from the lawsuit era of japanese guitars. Ibanez, Tokai, Fernandes, Yamaha, and a couple of others were making replicas of familiar american designs and Fender and Gibson both sued these companies and forced them to make minor alterations to these guitars like headstock shape. Funny thing is, that at the time, these companies were actually making better copies of these designs than the american manufactures of the time. The Les Pauls and Strats of the early 80's weren't very desireable at the time, and not just 'cause pointy guitars were popular at the time. They just weren't that great. Especially the strats of the early to mid 80's. Bad neck pocket fits, heavy woods, crummy p/u's, cheaper hardware, etc...

These japanes copies of this era are actually more desireable to knowledgeable collectors than the "real" thing.

And that is one nice Yamaha...If I had a place to hide it I'd jump on it. I just don't know where I could hide it, and I prefer my bed to the couch! :D

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Originally Posted by: 3fingeredblues
These japanes copies of this era are actually more desireable to knowledgeable collectors than the "real" thing.

very true. because people who are knowledgable about sound and music are going to go for the best sound, regardless of whether the headstock says Gibson or Fender or Yamaha or Aria... because no one can tell what brand of guitar you're playing when they close their eyes and listent to the music... and let the sound grab them. But they can tell if your sound is muddy and crappy.

[quote]And that is one nice Yamaha...If I had a place to hide it I'd jump on it. I just don't know where I could hide it, and I prefer my bed to the couch! :D[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by: 3fingeredblues
These japanes copies of this era are actually more desireable to knowledgeable collectors than the "real" thing.

very true. because people who are knowledgable about sound and music are going to go for the best sound, regardless of whether the headstock says Gibson or Fender or Yamaha or Aria... because no one can tell what brand of guitar you're playing when they close their eyes and listent to the music... and let the sound grab them. But they can tell if your sound is muddy and crappy.

[quote]And that is one nice Yamaha...If I had a place to hide it I'd jump on it. I just don't know where I could hide it, and I prefer my bed to the couch! :D[/QUOTE]
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I love my Les Paul Classic. It has great tone, a thin neck, sustains forever and is very reliable. I also love my Tele. I'm fairly traditional, I like my Fenders and Gibsons. I do like the Ibanez artist series. The ones that look like Lord's Yamaha SGB1000. Those are cool and I'd like to get my hands on one.
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#10

I love my Les Paul Classic. It has great tone, a thin neck, sustains forever and is very reliable. I also love my Tele. I'm fairly traditional, I like my Fenders and Gibsons. I do like the Ibanez artist series. The ones that look like Lord's Yamaha SGB1000. Those are cool and I'd like to get my hands on one.
Electric Guitars are the inspiration for cries of "Turn that damn thing down"-Gibson website