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stratmanjimbo

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I'll request it Christopher if you give me the tune title or description.....it's a familiar song and may need licensing ......this lesson has the potential to become a big hit for GT or at minimum......should be!! It may be a bit challenging but broken down correctly it could absolutely advance along many a player!! Bass, rhythm and solo all in one in a fun musical piece!! Dy-no-mite!! Oh wait......now I'm really dating myself with that JJ tag reference from a 70s era TV comedy.......I did watch it as a young kid though....but seriously.......if players can master your style here in this great arrangement then most other things on guitar would be a breeze!! Maybe others can watch and listen to that video ....agree with this assessment and chime in!!?? Jim C.

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I'll request it Christopher if you give me the tune title or description.....it's a familiar song and may need licensing ......this lesson has the potential to become a big hit for GT or at minimum......should be!! It may be a bit challenging but broken down correctly it could absolutely advance along many a player!! Bass, rhythm and solo all in one in a fun musical piece!! Dy-no-mite!! Oh wait......now I'm really dating myself with that JJ tag reference from a 70s era TV comedy.......I did watch it as a young kid though....but seriously.......if players can master your style here in this great arrangement then most other things on guitar would be a breeze!! Maybe others can watch and listen to that video ....agree with this assessment and chime in!!?? Jim C.

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Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
I'll request it Christopher if you give me the tune title or description.....it's a familiar song and may need licensing

It's a jazz standard called 'Blue Bossa' by Kenny Dorham. This is the demo vid you're referring to, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifc_Xk5-Nrk

I also did a complete arrangement of it for my channel. In fact I did 2 versions with 2 different Strats. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Ijn1_W2Z8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9KDx1JTEx4

Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo

......this lesson has the potential to become a big hit for GT or at minimum..

Ha ha! That might be a little overenthusiastic about an old instrumental jazz tune. But it is a fun one to learn if you like that sort of thing. :)

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Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
I'll request it Christopher if you give me the tune title or description.....it's a familiar song and may need licensing

It's a jazz standard called 'Blue Bossa' by Kenny Dorham. This is the demo vid you're referring to, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifc_Xk5-Nrk

I also did a complete arrangement of it for my channel. In fact I did 2 versions with 2 different Strats. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Ijn1_W2Z8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9KDx1JTEx4

Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo

......this lesson has the potential to become a big hit for GT or at minimum..

Ha ha! That might be a little overenthusiastic about an old instrumental jazz tune. But it is a fun one to learn if you like that sort of thing. :)

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stratmanjimbo

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Oh I don't know..let's see.........besides making Santana proud...learning dynamics and arpeggios plus all sorts of cool diminished and 13th? & 9th chords along with fingerstyle playing bass as well??? Pretty much a potential hit to me, C.S.!! I'd love to try this tamed down but just a wee bit on acoustic......Kenny impresses to this day and really........who doesn't really love a nice bossa nova??? I mean I'm open to all sorts of musical styles as long as it's good........and this piece is really very good!! Just a superior stand alone lesson with all sorts of tasty elements........OK...........I'll stop gushing.........but my spidey senses tell me I'm right about this one even if we disagree on Page/Plant and authoring "Stairway" sans stealing the main riff from Spirit and the band they actually opened for in the late 60s. I just know I'd feel like a better guitarist if/when I mastered this arrangement plus understood all the theory and Kenny's style......Jim C.

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Oh I don't know..let's see.........besides making Santana proud...learning dynamics and arpeggios plus all sorts of cool diminished and 13th? & 9th chords along with fingerstyle playing bass as well??? Pretty much a potential hit to me, C.S.!! I'd love to try this tamed down but just a wee bit on acoustic......Kenny impresses to this day and really........who doesn't really love a nice bossa nova??? I mean I'm open to all sorts of musical styles as long as it's good........and this piece is really very good!! Just a superior stand alone lesson with all sorts of tasty elements........OK...........I'll stop gushing.........but my spidey senses tell me I'm right about this one even if we disagree on Page/Plant and authoring "Stairway" sans stealing the main riff from Spirit and the band they actually opened for in the late 60s. I just know I'd feel like a better guitarist if/when I mastered this arrangement plus understood all the theory and Kenny's style......Jim C.

mike.catalano776

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Can you perhaps give an idea for a Santana tone like in Samba Pa Ti and I use a SSS strat no prs ,,,,,, yet been trying to get that tone using boss tone studio can’t seem to nail it.

Thanks

Stone

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Can you perhaps give an idea for a Santana tone like in Samba Pa Ti and I use a SSS strat no prs ,,,,,, yet been trying to get that tone using boss tone studio can’t seem to nail it.

Thanks

Stone

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Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
Pretty much a potential hit to me, C.S.!! I'd love to try this tamed down but just a wee bit on acoustic......Kenny impresses to this day and really........who doesn't really love a nice bossa nova???

Glad to hear you appreciate the tune!

Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
I just know I'd feel like a better guitarist if/when I mastered this arrangement plus understood all the theory and Kenny's style[/p]

Sure, that's true of any good tune. You're always a better musician for having mastered a tune, really learned it inside & out. Good observation!

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Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
Pretty much a potential hit to me, C.S.!! I'd love to try this tamed down but just a wee bit on acoustic......Kenny impresses to this day and really........who doesn't really love a nice bossa nova???

Glad to hear you appreciate the tune!

Originally Posted by: stratmanjimbo
I just know I'd feel like a better guitarist if/when I mastered this arrangement plus understood all the theory and Kenny's style[/p]

Sure, that's true of any good tune. You're always a better musician for having mastered a tune, really learned it inside & out. Good observation!

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Originally Posted by: mike.catalano776

Can you perhaps give an idea for a Santana tone like in Samba Pa Ti and I use a SSS strat no prs ,,,,,, yet been trying to get that tone using boss tone studio can’t seem to nail it.

Neck pickup. Lead amp if not brown sound. Lots of gain. I'd start here.

Lead amp type

Gain 8

Volume 8

Bass 5

Mid 8

Treble 5

Effects - Booster - look for a good overdrive (yellow) setting & try it around 7-8.

Since you don't have a humbucker dialing in the right amount of gain & mid boost is going to be the most important thing here! Hope that helps!

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Originally Posted by: mike.catalano776

Can you perhaps give an idea for a Santana tone like in Samba Pa Ti and I use a SSS strat no prs ,,,,,, yet been trying to get that tone using boss tone studio can’t seem to nail it.

Neck pickup. Lead amp if not brown sound. Lots of gain. I'd start here.

Lead amp type

Gain 8

Volume 8

Bass 5

Mid 8

Treble 5

Effects - Booster - look for a good overdrive (yellow) setting & try it around 7-8.

Since you don't have a humbucker dialing in the right amount of gain & mid boost is going to be the most important thing here! Hope that helps!

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mike.catalano776

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Thanks I wil Def try this setting :)

Stone

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Thanks I wil Def try this setting :)

Stone

yubeta

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how about what you have figured out for country tones??

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how about what you have figured out for country tones??

andrew.colomb

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I'm going to have fun with these settings Christopher!! Many thanks.

Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel
Originally Posted by: craftykenny
i play mostly blues think Joe Bonamassa and alot of clean stuff think Mark Knophler,although i must add not nearly as well as either of those 2 gentlemen.

Got it.

Bonamassa often plays Fender Tweed amp (those brown combos). And sometimes he has a pretty overdriven tone, but it's the result of volume more than gain. For that type of tone I suggest using this:

Crunch amp type

Gain 5

Volume 7

Bass 5

Mid 6

Treble 2

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 5 (this is a really important part of getting that punchy sound of the pick attack to sound right)

For his cleaner sounding blues I'd recommend:

Clean amp type
Gain 5

Volume 5
Bass 5

Mid 7

Treble 4

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 4

A little delay & reverb won't sound bad here & will flesh out the sound.

Delay (yellow) 2

Reverb 3

For Mark Knopfler tone (especially that classic cealn 'Sultans of Swing') you have to start with the guitar. He used a Strat with single coils & set on the middle & bridge pickup. He also used a compressor into a mostly clean amp. And that's where you can use the Booster again!

Clean amp type
Gain 4

Volume 5
Bass 3

Mid 7

Treble 6

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 3

Again a little delay & reverb won't sound bad here & will flesh out the sound.

Delay (yellow) 2

Reverb 3

That will probably get you in the ballpark. But you'll have to tweak to get closer depending on your guitar, playing style & volume.

And that's the caveat with all of these: it will depend a lot on your guitar & how loud you are playing. The louder the volume, the less you will need the bass & treble to make it sound full. At low volumes you often need to turn the bass & treble up to make up for the lack of punch from the speaker. Hope that makes sense. You can hear it for yourself with a little experimentation!

Also, if you haven't yet, you might check out the Katana website for downloadable patches. I haven't use them but I did play around the Tone Central computer program!

http://bosstonecentral.com/liveset/category/katana/

Hope that helps! Have fun tone chasing, but don't forget to play guitar more than fiddle with knobs. :)

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I'm going to have fun with these settings Christopher!! Many thanks.

Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel
Originally Posted by: craftykenny
i play mostly blues think Joe Bonamassa and alot of clean stuff think Mark Knophler,although i must add not nearly as well as either of those 2 gentlemen.

Got it.

Bonamassa often plays Fender Tweed amp (those brown combos). And sometimes he has a pretty overdriven tone, but it's the result of volume more than gain. For that type of tone I suggest using this:

Crunch amp type

Gain 5

Volume 7

Bass 5

Mid 6

Treble 2

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 5 (this is a really important part of getting that punchy sound of the pick attack to sound right)

For his cleaner sounding blues I'd recommend:

Clean amp type
Gain 5

Volume 5
Bass 5

Mid 7

Treble 4

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 4

A little delay & reverb won't sound bad here & will flesh out the sound.

Delay (yellow) 2

Reverb 3

For Mark Knopfler tone (especially that classic cealn 'Sultans of Swing') you have to start with the guitar. He used a Strat with single coils & set on the middle & bridge pickup. He also used a compressor into a mostly clean amp. And that's where you can use the Booster again!

Clean amp type
Gain 4

Volume 5
Bass 3

Mid 7

Treble 6

Effects - Booster (yellow color on the button) on 3

Again a little delay & reverb won't sound bad here & will flesh out the sound.

Delay (yellow) 2

Reverb 3

That will probably get you in the ballpark. But you'll have to tweak to get closer depending on your guitar, playing style & volume.

And that's the caveat with all of these: it will depend a lot on your guitar & how loud you are playing. The louder the volume, the less you will need the bass & treble to make it sound full. At low volumes you often need to turn the bass & treble up to make up for the lack of punch from the speaker. Hope that makes sense. You can hear it for yourself with a little experimentation!

Also, if you haven't yet, you might check out the Katana website for downloadable patches. I haven't use them but I did play around the Tone Central computer program!

http://bosstonecentral.com/liveset/category/katana/

Hope that helps! Have fun tone chasing, but don't forget to play guitar more than fiddle with knobs. :)

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Originally Posted by: andrew.colomb

I'm going to have fun with these settings Christopher!! Many thanks.

You're welcome!

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Originally Posted by: andrew.colomb

I'm going to have fun with these settings Christopher!! Many thanks.

You're welcome!

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