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Does anyone put a sheilf or something between the amp and mic when recording? I hung a blanket up between the two to help reduce noise.
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Does anyone put a sheilf or something between the amp and mic when recording? I hung a blanket up between the two to help reduce noise.
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That is "sheild" not "sheilf"
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That is "sheild" not "sheilf"
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where do you put the blanket?

As long as it doesn't muffle the noise....

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where do you put the blanket?

As long as it doesn't muffle the noise....

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Pretend the amp is at #1.
I put the blanket at #3 and mic at #8
(for example)
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Pretend the amp is at #1.
I put the blanket at #3 and mic at #8
(for example)
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That's a neat idea;

During Jams, our drummer hangs 3 Afghan rugs from each side of his "Drum Wall" (hard to explain), and that equalizes the sound level between the Drums and the rest of the band.

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That's a neat idea;

During Jams, our drummer hangs 3 Afghan rugs from each side of his "Drum Wall" (hard to explain), and that equalizes the sound level between the Drums and the rest of the band.

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Our drummer usually just puts some pillows in front of the bass drum.
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Our drummer usually just puts some pillows in front of the bass drum.
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Dude, I don’t thing this is a good idea unless you want a muffled sound as you will lose a lot of your high end harmonics which contain most of the “sparkle”. If you are happy with your sound or your mic can’t pick up these frequencies any way it may not be an issue however, here is my 2c:

Recording guitar with a mic is quite a difficult thing to do well, there are a lot of variables i.e. ambiance, mic position, type of mic, preamp color... before you even think of things like double tracking, EQ, compression, reverb etc etc.

You are probably managing to kill some of the ambiance of your recording space (ie the first reflection) with your blankets however you may get a nicer effect by putting the blanket on the reflective surface (i.e. wall) after the mic whilst still facing the amp (like a Gobo).

Alternatively you may have your amp turned up too loud for the mic (i.e. over loading the mic) in which case the blanket is reducing the SPL (sound pressure level (think volume)) allowing the mic to function with out overloading. A better fix for this is to move the mic back from the amp and adjusting your EQ (as bass frequencies alter with volume- a la Fletcher-Munson Curves) whilst allowing for more room ambiance i.e. with your blanket covering the wall facing the amp.

I hope you see why I normally suggest that people who are starting out recording guitars start by recording direct. It is a lot simpler to make a better recording shooting from an FX board or a POD (it is what a POD was designed for) into a DAW (Digital audio work station i.e. Computer) than it is trying to manage all that air and stuff. Im not saying it can be done really well and I know many people who swear by micking amps. However, they have been recording guitars for a living for 20 years! I started using a mic and gave up as soon as Mr Pod came along!

[Edited by Dr_simon on 08-23-2003 at 05:03 PM]
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Dude, I don’t thing this is a good idea unless you want a muffled sound as you will lose a lot of your high end harmonics which contain most of the “sparkle”. If you are happy with your sound or your mic can’t pick up these frequencies any way it may not be an issue however, here is my 2c:

Recording guitar with a mic is quite a difficult thing to do well, there are a lot of variables i.e. ambiance, mic position, type of mic, preamp color... before you even think of things like double tracking, EQ, compression, reverb etc etc.

You are probably managing to kill some of the ambiance of your recording space (ie the first reflection) with your blankets however you may get a nicer effect by putting the blanket on the reflective surface (i.e. wall) after the mic whilst still facing the amp (like a Gobo).

Alternatively you may have your amp turned up too loud for the mic (i.e. over loading the mic) in which case the blanket is reducing the SPL (sound pressure level (think volume)) allowing the mic to function with out overloading. A better fix for this is to move the mic back from the amp and adjusting your EQ (as bass frequencies alter with volume- a la Fletcher-Munson Curves) whilst allowing for more room ambiance i.e. with your blanket covering the wall facing the amp.

I hope you see why I normally suggest that people who are starting out recording guitars start by recording direct. It is a lot simpler to make a better recording shooting from an FX board or a POD (it is what a POD was designed for) into a DAW (Digital audio work station i.e. Computer) than it is trying to manage all that air and stuff. Im not saying it can be done really well and I know many people who swear by micking amps. However, they have been recording guitars for a living for 20 years! I started using a mic and gave up as soon as Mr Pod came along!

[Edited by Dr_simon on 08-23-2003 at 05:03 PM]
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Wow, ok, well.....I am jsut getting into recording so I don't want to go out and buy a whole bunch of stuff. Would it be better to go straight from my amp into the computers "mic in" input?

If yes, then which output should I use on my amp? Power amp in, preamp out, or use the spare speaker jack?
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Wow, ok, well.....I am jsut getting into recording so I don't want to go out and buy a whole bunch of stuff. Would it be better to go straight from my amp into the computers "mic in" input?

If yes, then which output should I use on my amp? Power amp in, preamp out, or use the spare speaker jack?
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wwwwwoww there cowboy, don’t be a plugging anything into your sound card just yet !

Your Mic input likes LoZ signal

Your ext. speaker out will contain enough juice to fry, at the very least, your sound card.

The easiest and crudest way to record direct is to plug your guitar into a stomp box and run a cable from the stomp box into the "line Level" input of your sound card using a 1/4 to 1/8 jack adapter.

Im not sure about your amps preamp out, this may be ok to plug into a "line level" input but Im not sure you may fry something. I bet Lordathestrings would probably know !


[Edited by Dr_simon on 08-22-2003 at 10:05 PM]
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wwwwwoww there cowboy, don’t be a plugging anything into your sound card just yet !

Your Mic input likes LoZ signal

Your ext. speaker out will contain enough juice to fry, at the very least, your sound card.

The easiest and crudest way to record direct is to plug your guitar into a stomp box and run a cable from the stomp box into the "line Level" input of your sound card using a 1/4 to 1/8 jack adapter.

Im not sure about your amps preamp out, this may be ok to plug into a "line level" input but Im not sure you may fry something. I bet Lordathestrings would probably know !


[Edited by Dr_simon on 08-22-2003 at 10:05 PM]
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Lol, I was afraid of that. Maybe I'll just stick to mic for now.
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Lol, I was afraid of that. Maybe I'll just stick to mic for now.
Electric Guitars are the inspiration for cries of "Turn that damn thing down"-Gibson website