Best songwriters of all time?

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Franky Miller

He wrote is first song aged 12yr was very infuential on the British rock scene.l

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Franky Miller

He wrote is first song aged 12yr was very infuential on the British rock scene.l

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Franky Miller

He was revered by all the rock stars of the 60s and 70s and wrote some of there most famous songs for them?

But did not gain stardom in his own right all though he toured right upto is death a few years ago.

Rod stewart had a hit with Darlin" to name but one.

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Franky Miller

He was revered by all the rock stars of the 60s and 70s and wrote some of there most famous songs for them?

But did not gain stardom in his own right all though he toured right upto is death a few years ago.

Rod stewart had a hit with Darlin" to name but one.

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Add in James Taylor & Neil Young. Cannot be overlooked!! Jim C.

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Add in James Taylor & Neil Young. Cannot be overlooked!! Jim C.

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If you are going to put Dylan as the best then you have to put Woody Guthrie along-side him.

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If you are going to put Dylan as the best then you have to put Woody Guthrie along-side him.

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I have to give a shout out to Jackson Browne and Jonie Mitchell as some of the best from the last century.

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I have to give a shout out to Jackson Browne and Jonie Mitchell as some of the best from the last century.

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ian anerson of jethro tull, lennon, morrison, jimmi hendrix, jimmi page, neal young.

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ian anerson of jethro tull, lennon, morrison, jimmi hendrix, jimmi page, neal young.

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Dylan

Townes Van Zandt

Guy Clark

Mark Knopfler

George and Ira Gershwin

Duke Ellington

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Dylan

Townes Van Zandt

Guy Clark

Mark Knopfler

George and Ira Gershwin

Duke Ellington

manXcat

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Stale thread, and I'm sure this selection has to be in it somewhere.

"Of all time" perhaps not compared to the likes of Haydn, but of the contemporary music from the past seven decades, no contest Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison...sorry Ritchie.

Yet to be bettered in either quanity, quality or popularity.

"Life is just a bowl of cherries ...."

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Stale thread, and I'm sure this selection has to be in it somewhere.

"Of all time" perhaps not compared to the likes of Haydn, but of the contemporary music from the past seven decades, no contest Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison...sorry Ritchie.

Yet to be bettered in either quanity, quality or popularity.

"Life is just a bowl of cherries ...."

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Originally Posted by: manXcat

Stale thread, and I'm sure this selection has to be in it somewhere.

"Of all time" perhaps not compared to the likes of Haydn, but of the contemporary music from the past seven decades, no contest Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison...sorry Ritchie.

Yet to be bettered in either quanity, quality or popularity.

...and considering how old they were (weren't, really...), it's even more shocking how good those songs are. Lyrically and musically, astounding at such a young age. Hard to argue how great they were and clearly will always be at the top of the songwriter list.

In the same mindset, Brian Williams has to be up there too.

These guys were more than just a single great song or even just some great songs, they had a lot of them. There are times where a decent band ends up having 'that one' amazing song but the rest of the catalogue was at best, ok. But if you can keep putting up great songs, that's really a next level skill.

I find that what I consider a great songwriter isn't just the ability to write a song that the masses love (though that is a skill), but the ability to be musically and lyrically be inventive too.

I think as a group, Fleetwood Mac in their prime were right up there too. Oh, and the Eagles....

Awwww heck, next thing ya know, I got half the 70's in there!!!!

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Originally Posted by: manXcat

Stale thread, and I'm sure this selection has to be in it somewhere.

"Of all time" perhaps not compared to the likes of Haydn, but of the contemporary music from the past seven decades, no contest Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison...sorry Ritchie.

Yet to be bettered in either quanity, quality or popularity.

...and considering how old they were (weren't, really...), it's even more shocking how good those songs are. Lyrically and musically, astounding at such a young age. Hard to argue how great they were and clearly will always be at the top of the songwriter list.

In the same mindset, Brian Williams has to be up there too.

These guys were more than just a single great song or even just some great songs, they had a lot of them. There are times where a decent band ends up having 'that one' amazing song but the rest of the catalogue was at best, ok. But if you can keep putting up great songs, that's really a next level skill.

I find that what I consider a great songwriter isn't just the ability to write a song that the masses love (though that is a skill), but the ability to be musically and lyrically be inventive too.

I think as a group, Fleetwood Mac in their prime were right up there too. Oh, and the Eagles....

Awwww heck, next thing ya know, I got half the 70's in there!!!!

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Originally Posted by: JeffS65
...and considering how old they were (weren't, really...)

And the fact that none of them could read or write script notation or had any formal training whatsoever in musical theory, reliant on intuition and instinct.

I'm not a believer in any of the 'my brand sky faery faith' dogmas, but Brian Epstein's promotional involvement notwithstanding, it too a function of the same timing and coincidental (?) coalescence of those three lads + one the social harmonist, does make one consider the origin of all that is known scientific theory and philosophical logic.

Originally Posted by: JeffS65
In the same mindset, Brian Williams has to be up there too.


Typo? From the gist, did you mean to type Brian Wilson? This is the only Brian Williams songwriter I could find off a quick search.

Originally Posted by: JeffS65
Oh, and the Eagles...

Yes, for me they really were a stand out in the '70s, and beyond, which is quite the accolade considering the also ran competition of the day.

"Life is just a bowl of cherries ...."

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Originally Posted by: JeffS65
...and considering how old they were (weren't, really...)

And the fact that none of them could read or write script notation or had any formal training whatsoever in musical theory, reliant on intuition and instinct.

I'm not a believer in any of the 'my brand sky faery faith' dogmas, but Brian Epstein's promotional involvement notwithstanding, it too a function of the same timing and coincidental (?) coalescence of those three lads + one the social harmonist, does make one consider the origin of all that is known scientific theory and philosophical logic.

Originally Posted by: JeffS65
In the same mindset, Brian Williams has to be up there too.


Typo? From the gist, did you mean to type Brian Wilson? This is the only Brian Williams songwriter I could find off a quick search.

Originally Posted by: JeffS65
Oh, and the Eagles...

Yes, for me they really were a stand out in the '70s, and beyond, which is quite the accolade considering the also ran competition of the day.

"Life is just a bowl of cherries ...."