true dat, i have played in D for an entry and some of the guys play in Eb. I have tuner Loner, i'm just saying that it would be nice to tune up while sitting at the computer. it's easier for some people to hear and tune up than play around with their tuners(most begginers don't even know how a tuner works or how to use the 5th and 4th frets to tune up). and alot of people play acoustic.