Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel

That depends on what style of music you want to play. It sounds like you have a good handle on the basics: open chords, barre chords & the inversion D shape, which is really part of a barre C. Next I would start to isolate parts of those into smaller voicings.

Instead of the full barre chord, play these.

|--3-------------|

|--3--3----------|

|--4--4--4-------|

|------5--5------|

|----------5-----|

|-----------------|

Instead of the full C barre, play these.

|--7--------------|

|--8--8-----------|

|--7--7--7-------|

|------9--9------|

|---------10-----|

|-----------------|

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I think at least the first one you put down I already marked in the image, I tried to make the various chords stand out by using different colors, if you look at the barre chord G, the "short barre" is only red dots, while the full barre chords additional dots are two colors. Same for the D shaped G and the inverted one.

the last one of yours I don't understand. Is it the inverted G og D shaped G? I will try to figure it out.

Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel

You use those when you desire the sound of them. I have tutorials on extended harmony chords (7th, 9th, 11th, 13th, & variations).[/quote][p]

Will have a look. Thank you.

Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegelWhen you desire the sound of them. This is going to require a lot of experimenting & listening. It also helps to listen to & learn the songs of artists you like to discover how to recreate the sounds they made that you like.[/quote]

Well I am a huge John Mayer fan, but that does not do me any good. He is so great I am too intimmidated to even try to sit down and learn what he plays. That is pro elite game all the way.

I guess that's partly why we stick to play more of the classic rock, more straight and not too complicated so it kind of works out even for our level. I guess I start with small steps and try it out while jamming to tracks from like Petty, maybe Stones or Nirvana.

[quote=ChristopherSchlegel]

It can help to sound more full, or to clearly distinguish the parts from one another. But a lot of this is also going to be the result of volume & tone. And what your partner is playing.

Consider that you are playing some interesting, different voicing of a chord in a different area of the fretboard than your partner. If your tone is too loud or distorted, then it's not going to be heard clearly. If your partner is baning away on a full barre chord, basically taking up all the sonic space, it's not going to matter much what you do.

The point here is that it has to be a team effort. Everyone has to be aware of the overall goal of making sure all the instruments have their own sonic space in which to be heard clearly.

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We try to differenciate the sound of the gitars, using pedals, maybe different pickups etc.I liked the "own sonic space". That kind of pin points it.

But I guess what will still be an issue is the lack of knowledge of how arrange a song. How to divide a song between two guitars. Have you like seen the Mayer and Urban youtube of them covering the Don't let me down by the beatles? Well they know their shit. Maybe I need to study theory to get some understanding of how to arrange music? By all means, I don't expect us to sound anything like they do, it was more of a homage to the way they split the song between them. I think maybe it is called call and response? Man I wish there was music camp for adults. We are all more or less at the same level of musical understanding and skills, or lack of skills, so no one can steer the ship.

[quote=ChristopherSchlegel][quote=bouncee]Does anyone have tips on how to get clean sounding barre chords when using "thumb over" ?

Start with a solid sounding F chord shape. Then add your thumb. Or start with just your index finger barring the E & B strings & the thumb on the low E, then try to add your other fingers. Or just use full barre chords.

Hope that helps!

Hey what do you know, that actually worked on the first try, and now I can recreate it too. Great tip. I think I was focusing so hard on muting the fifth string with the tip of the ring finger I must have gotten bad angels. For now I will just be strumming those carefully and NOT hit the fifth string, maybe in a while I can find a way to mute the A string. Practice makes perfect they say so I will continue to work with the thumb over barre chords in the daily practice, sooner or later I will master it fully, with muted fifth string as well.