BLues

What makes blues blues!! is it the beat? because theres like a blues scale which is one note off of a pentatonic so they can be pretty similar. The song "move to the city" by guns n roses is pure blues, and the solo is too. slash plays this kewl solo but what key features make it blues like? is it the chords played behind?

later torby

The unique sound of blues is created by implying a minor scale (penta w/a b5) over top a major chord progression. I believe the Blues was the 1st style of music to do this (minor over major).

Well...looking at scales you can say this:

I suppose you know the pentatonic scale...

the difference between the pentatonic scale and the blues scale is just 1 note!

This note is called the 'blue' note and makes certain licks sound bluesy.

check it out: look at the pentatonic scale in the key of A in the 5th position.

and now look at the blues scale (same key, same position)

You probably see the blue note. it's at the A-string at the 6th fret, and (1 octave higher) at the g-string ;o) at the 8th fret.

I believe this is what chris mood was telling you, i just rephrased it i guess...

bubye

http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3609
http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3722

Here are the 2 advices I give my students, and that I was given while attending a berklee master class...

Originally posted by lalimacefolle
http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3609
http://www.guitartricks.com/2000/trick.php?trick_id=3722

Here are the 2 advices I give my students, and that I was given while attending a berklee master class...

Hmmmm just wondered Lalimacefolle what tuning your,
useing on the #2 url its not a standard 440 tuning.
I'm finding you in Bbminor not E-minor plus are
you useing bends or slides the tab don't really
match with the sound file ?
Mabee its me but it sounds like your in another octave
on the sound file compared to the tab.

Mark
Also i think all who post guitar tricks on this board
should tell in thier text if thier useing another
tuning besides the standard 440 tuning this would really
confuse a beginner guitarest if thier useing a standard
Tuning.Most beginners don't know about tuning thier
strings down a half step for the Eb tuning that is used
alot by guitarists useing heavy gauge strings plus singers
and alot of Artists!
I think this would be a great Topic to make a thread on
for all the guitarists on the board not just the people
who put the tricks up.(I think a standard should be set
by guitar-tricks for this problem?)

[Edited by skee1 on 03-12-2002 at 10:40 AM]

Errrrr, I don't know, I guess I mught be off, but not by an octave... (Maybe you play bass?)

Originally posted by lalimacefolle
Errrrr, I don't know, I guess I mught be off, but not by an octave... (Maybe you play bass?)

Know i have a good ear!
The thing i find is the Tab don't match the sound file!
Mabee some one else can listen plus check it don't
just go by me.
Just figured you should know.

Mark

Peace

Lal
I checked it again the tab is fine for Am not Em!
Your last #5 note should be on the high E string not the B
String to match your sound file.
Also your useing an Eb=tuning right?
I mean your tuned down a half step from standard 440 right?
Mark
What it looks like your tab is written in Am and
your sound file is being played in Ebm.

[Edited by skee1 on 03-12-2002 at 11:31 AM]

Why do you need tab if you have a good ear? :D
You were right, I tabbed it in A minor, and I play it in E in the clip, I have corrected it :)

Originally posted by lalimacefolle
Why do you need tab if you have a good ear? :D
You were right, I tabbed it in A minor, and I play it in E in the clip, I have corrected it :)

I don't really need the tab to play it but if some one else was trying to put the tab with the sound file
they might just say hey this don't sound like the
sound file i just thought you should know don't you?

Mark
I really think this makes your tab and sound file
look and sound alot better plus mabee get a good Rating.
Thats great you fixed it.

(Peace)

Woman, your dog, your house, your job, your mind, your Guitar or someone you love yet?

'cause without that you can play it.. but you won't mean it.

Blues aint a scale -it's LOSS and PAIN.

Listen to Lots of Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker and Buddy Guy
.


Christmas Blues (Robin Williams?)

"I woke up Christmas mornin'
an' my woman was dead.

Reindeer come down the chimney
an' step on her head" .. :)

It's a parody ,but...

James8831

You are so right !

Mark

Just as I FEEL it, Mark.

Cheers.

Both Chris and Vertigo are right...
The main thing that makes the blues is putting a b3 over a natural 3. Try it out - in the key of G, play the major third note (B) and the minor third note (Bb) together. That's done easiest by playing 3rd fret G string and the B string open. Nasty, right?
The second thing is the "blue" note, the b5 (Db). A.k.a. the tritone interval (6 frets, from G to Db), this combo sounds pretty bad too... Try hitting 2nd fret B string and 3 fret high-e string. These intervals (minor second, diminished fifth) are the "worst" sounding of all thirteen (unison to octave) in western music. In fact, the tritone was known as tthe "Devil's Interval" back in medieval times.
These intervals were chosen to simulate the underlying pain/anguish theme of the blues. After years of usage, these intervals became less and less "out-of-place" and now it's common to use them (the blues scale is one of the most common scales used in rock music, and the first scale learned by many). Just goes to show you how music evolves...

Blues is not a Theory thing read my lips ?
Blues is a (Listening) thing that you have to learn!
1.Listening
2.Play with other players=Jam
3.Find your Groove
4.Let one player do the comping while you lay down your
groove licks then trade the comping back and forth.
5.Learn how to adlib improv ect.
6.Anybody that thinks you play blues
by learning Theory is not a blues player and can't play
the Blues.(Learning how to Listen to your music plus
knowing how to groove is the right and only way.
If anybody thinks you learn to play the blues by learning
Theory is a complete Ediot.
Really you should already know how to play music before
you try to learn Blues Music.
If you told a Pro Blues musician that to play the blues
all you have to do is learn the blues note plus theory
they would laugh you out of town.
If you already know how to play music and you want to learn the Blues Learn some basic Blues Chord Progressions useing 7th chords plus some Blues Rythums.
Learning the Blues Beats are very important when learning
Blues, plus the Bars like the Twelve Bar Blues.
Blues is the Roots of Rock&Roll.
The Blues is a free form music.
Really if you can't play the Blues Beat that blues note
is not going to help you.
Like i say you have to have the beat first plus the
key for learning Blues is (Listening)not learning one
note .



Mark

[Edited by skee1 on 04-11-2002 at 12:01 PM]