Because it was not ligetimatly set up!!! it was forced on them, and at the time of 48 it was occupation, and it was their right (under international law) to resist. also isreal has acted very much like a lawyer in all of this, with incidents like the "withdraw from occupied lands", and then only pulling out only from a few and saying we didn't say "the occpied lands" when the whole thing with egypt was going on...
Hold on, here isreal has started wars... simply played with technicaliteis, and secondly more rescntly released Isreali papers have shown that isreal did start the 56 war.. the point is it's not about history that's being played with, it's about now... and secondly alot of war no one really knows how they started...
"if we are so bad then how can it be that we are the only country in the whole world where palestinian refugees recived a citizenship in 1948???"
if remeber correctly most arab countries didn't even have independence back then... they were under british/ french/ itlain control, and gues who set up isreal in the first palce. See? Also this doesn't justfiy killing 3rd generation of palastinains does it?
i'm not saying Isreali's are monesters, i'm saying the governemnt that suppousedly represnts them is... I dont understand "loyalty", and why everyone steps behind the president when he goes to war... I mean, he's running the country into a disaster and everyone is suppourting. (he has led isreal into more voilnce when he promised he would sort it out... he hasn't)
The BBC isn't that bad (even though far a while they started calling the illigitamte killing of palastinains "target killings" and "collatral damage", but some papers picked up on this, and said it was rascits to have double standards)... but CNN and SKY call the murder of isreali's murder (which it is), but the murder of palastains other names given by Isreali millitary representatives... now is that fair? Also the papers, had the head line "arafat says "go to hell"", when the full story was he'd said "if anyone want to get in the way of a palastinain state (or freedome of the palastinains.. I cant remember the exact word used there), they can go to hell", after it was alledged that one of sharons representative was being agressive ...
What they're doing to the PLO at the moment is nothing but provication, and the rapidity of the first attacks on Arafat's office showed that it was indeed pre-planed (that's what a british military specialist said on the BBC) with the excuse he's not arresting enought poeple.. arresting something is better than the nothing he's doing at the moment because he's been put underhouse arrest (so the low number of arrests argument is by no means ligitimate), and it's now going to be more like the groups he had control over are going to join in, and it will be put as Isreal having put an old terrorist under house arrest, and when they were attacked for no reason by these terrrorist groups who are killing lots of isrealis, so isreal had to "defend" it's self (killing 3 to 4 for every isreal's is simply revenge not self defence) ... both side have their excuses lined up, everyone is avenging one or something... And why wont they biuld a wall between the settlers and the palastinains to end things? Because the settlers are cannon fodder, poeple sacraficed so there'll always be an excuse to carry on, and so the settelments can expand into palastinain areas (also another excuses wich suicide bomber have, being kicked out of their home to make way for isrealis)...I'm not saying hammas/ jihad are innocent, but they're not doing as much damage as isreal is doing... Do you see it's not black and white.. it's all shades of grey...
"well if you belive that israel soildger can take his gun and smash someones head that is realy sad "
hmmm, that's from amnesity international late 2000, when the soldier who got found out by reporters, so the isreali military were in an akward situation, so they arrested and tried him... which looked good in the news, but the verdict came a while later (which wasn't reported, as the story was "no longer significant"), and he got six month!!! For crying out loud!
Isreal has only given back some land because it had trouble keeping them, not out of kindness... be it from poeple like hezbollah, or simply having gained too much land in not enough time to defend it... It's certainly not doing any favours to lebanon a country that it completly destroyed, and killed 40,000 of simply becasue they wanted arafat and were not bothered to do the ground work... Arafat never killed anywhere near this figure, and those lebanese had nothing to do with it.. yet this is considered a victory!!!!!
if isreal has the right to "defend" it's citizens then the palastinains have the right to "defend" their citizens... and that's how the terrorist groups see it.. So you kill innocent palastinains and blame it on terrorist being mixed in with them, then you will get more terrorists, and the cycle will continue. The very heavy handed isreali tactics are in desprate need of being sorted, as isreal doesnt have the right to "defend her self as she sees fit" when it means killing innocent civilains, and extra judicail killings... These are the main issues which are not adressed..
[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-24-2002 at 07:07 PM]
