hi bruce, started at 46 never thought I'd get anything down..but here I am one year later and sure am glad I didn't give up and don't plan to any time soon...for 46 years my left hand did not do much beside picking up a chip in a bowl, dang it was lazy :( ...had to show it how life works :eek: ..was not easy but I can tell you that it is now having the time of it's life ;) the secret practice practice practice ..go slow if you have to