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-A.H.
-A.H.
Originally Posted by: SPLRegardless of his actions now, he shouldn't be put to death. The death penalty is simply wrong in my opinion.
How is death a punishment? Life in prison with no chance of parole, now that's punishment.
Originally Posted by: stacknyI also heard its cheaper if you keep them in jail, due to the appeals and such that go into the process of the death penalty.
Pray to God I dont get thrown in jail cuz Id be someones bitch, but the prisoners nowadays have way too many freedoms. They watch tv, play sports, workout....Doesnt sound like too much punishment to me.
Originally Posted by: HammurabiAny bets on what Arnold will decide?
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonWell, they do get raped and shivved...
Originally Posted by: Leedoggshivved? :confused:
Originally Posted by: Leedoggshivved? :confused:
Originally Posted by: 3rd_degreeburn"He took those peoples right to live without care. I feel we should do the same."
Originally Posted by: HammurabiIf my mother was murdered the perp would be written about in medical journals.
Originally Posted by: monkeypie420Well, this one has me coming outta the quiet corner where I usually lurk.. Re Tookie-- re ANYONE who was convicted in a court of law in California in the 1970s..
My dad was a homicide detecive in SoCal in the 1970s and I swear that on more than one occasion he bragged about saying 'whatever it took to put that puke behind bars' I heard his partners say much the same thing. These idiot pigs lied as a matter of course. Maybe they really believed that the ends justified the means, maybe they really believed the alleged perpetrators did what they were accused of and lying was justified if it got 'em off the streets. But the fact IS, cops lie. A lot.
What I'm saying here is, just because someone was found guilty in a California court doesn't mean they received a fair and honest trial. Cops are not to be trusted *just because* they're cops. Far from it. I grew up around cops (to me, 'pigs' for good reason) and I've never met a more dishonest, lying, racist bunch of jerks since.
I believe that Tookie has done enough time. His works in prison have more than redeemed him from anything he may or may not have done 30 years ago. Let the man go free. He says he didn't kill the people he's imprisoned for killing. Knowing what I know about California cops.. I believe him.
Preparing to Duck,
--monkeypie
Originally Posted by: R. ShackleferdHe shouldn't have even been given the chance to turn his life around.